He is a retired four-star general who has the distinction of being the only person to head both the NSA and CIA. In his new memoir, “Playing to the Edge,” Michael Hayden candidly reflects on his time at both agencies during the turbulent, post-9/11 war on terror. 

Robert Gates (Eleanor Gates)

New Book Highlights Lessons Learned in 50 Years of Public Service

To say that former Defense Secretary Robert Gates has seen a lot is undoubtedly an understatement. He's served under eight presidents of both major parties (2006-2011), led the CIA and Texas A&M, and been awarded the Presidential Medal of Freedom. Now, he’s the president of the Boys Scouts of America. He joins us to talk about his new book.